Yeah, his speech about how everyone he’s ever loved has died and he has nothing else to lose in Infinity War was a laugh riot.
MortalJohn2025-12-28 11:44
I mean it was... Rocket literally goes through every permutation of connection, and Thor explains that every single one has met some untimely demise. It's dark humour, but still humour.
The_Unknown_Dude2025-12-28 16:41
He half laughs at himself saying that, the one thing he hasn't lost really, it's just been diminished.
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JokerFaces22025-12-28 13:41
You thought wrong.
shogi_x2025-12-28 15:06
After Endgame and Love & Thunder, I can see how people might have forgotten that.
Mysterious-Fix-33252025-12-28 16:25
Ignore reality man, let's pretend that never happened.
throwtheclownaway202025-12-28 15:46
Seriously. He had ONE movie that had too much comedy and they act like that's all he's ever been.
SkintCrayon2025-12-28 15:53
I'd argue he had too much humor in Ragnarok, infinity war and endgame too. Depends on how humorous you like your Thor
throwtheclownaway202025-12-28 16:05
He wasn't even being that funny! Funny stuff was happening around him and he was largely the straight man. Like, when everyone else was making fat jokes in Endgame, he was literally crying over how desperately he wanted to wear the nanogauntlet and prove his worth.
SkintCrayon2025-12-28 16:07
I guess he wasn't always funny but was still the focus of humor and some silly dialogue
StMcAwesome2025-12-28 18:12
I found it funny when he said "I went for the head" in Endgame and the crowd laughed like this sad and guilty line reading was supposed to be a joke.
RagingDaddy2025-12-29 04:22
"I did what they told me. Am I a hero now?" Poor Thor
LordLoss012025-12-28 20:05
Yeah, this is the part people don't get.
Him being fat isn't inherently funny. It's actually sad. It's textbook depression.
The only reason people say it's funny is because they see a fat person and their first thought is "Ha ha funny".
SkintCrayon2025-12-28 20:10
His look was played for laughs and he was the butt of a lot of jokes
TheRealGrifter2025-12-28 22:49
Let me throw something at you, because I think you're misreading the situation.
Everyone has gathered together to discuss who's going to wear the new gauntlet the team put together. Everyone is tense. Thor, after a movie's worth of depression, comes out of his funk enough to make an impassioned plea to wear the guantlet and do the snap. War Machine, who has spent the whole movie looking down on Thor, being obviously disgusted by him, and insulting him, accuses Thor of having Cheez Whiz in his veins. Do you think that was supposed to make the audience laugh?
Rhodey's being cruel. The audience is supposed to side with the guy being bullied. The guy who's in rough shape, who is absolutely and obviously depressed. We're not supposed to side with Rhodey, or Rocket, or the others who made crass jokes at Thor's expense. *We're not supposed to laugh at Thor.* The jokes the other characters made demonstrated that even good people can be cruel. It's true in the movie, and it's true in real life. That's the point of them treating Thor like that.
Yes, he was the butt of a lot of jokes. Whether or not a person laughs at the jokes says something about them, not about Thor.
CaptHayfever2025-12-28 23:10
***THANK YOU.***
El-Ausgebombt2025-12-28 23:13
I love when people do the work for the writers. It would have been cool if your head canon was actually portrayed in the screen. Yes, those moments were indeed meant to be funny. We cannot "death of the author" out of this one.
antonylockhart2025-12-29 00:06
As a husky fellow, i did not enjoy the let’s make fun of Thor part, especially Rhodey and Rocket. It was all too cruel to belittle the guys mental state and suffering because of his rotundness
Shlecko2025-12-29 01:35
It would be awesome if the scene told us this, and not some guy trying to explain what the writers *meant* for it to mean.
For an extreme example, look at "The Room": an objectively hilarious movie. The writer didn't mean for it to be and if you look at the dialogue absent of the context of how the movie actually played out, it clearly wasn't *meant* to be funny.
But are all the people who laughed wrong...? Or is the blame on those responsible for the final product that was that movie?
BasculinSushi2025-12-29 02:21
It's a bit of both though. While Thor's portrayal in Endgame is actually an accurate portrayal of what someone could certainly go through when they're depressed or suffering from PTSD, the fat joke/tough love jibes from Rhodey are meant to add levity to the situation and make the audience laugh, whether he's being what some might consider overly cruel or not.
It doesn't make someone a shitty person for chuckling at a joke that the Russo Bros. clearly intended to be one. The script even called for Thor to be fit again in the final fight against Thanos, but Hemsworth argued against it.
That being said, that's how MCU operates. Effusive jokes on jokes regardless of the situation. It wouldn't be a Marvel movie if they had Thor wallowing in his own crapulence without some jokes added to the mix. But overall, I think they handled the whole redemption angle with Thor well. They accurately showed what someone might do during depression/PTSD. They accurately showed that not everyone would be sympathetic towards his situation, friend or not. When Rocket tries to slap sense into him, that's not the exact catalyst for Thor's redemption. It's Thor's realization that he is worthy of his mantle because he can handle his emotions and mentality and not just his physicality.
jjkm72025-12-29 17:10
The reason people found him being fat funny is because in the context of the film it was literally used as a gag and comedic relief and not addressed seriously
The-student-2025-12-28 19:38
Infinity War Thor was perfect for me. The stretch of Ragnorok to Infinity to Endgame worked well for me.
HimtadoriWuji2025-12-28 20:48
Infinity war was the best Thor and I’ll die on that hill. He had just the right mixture of both
KingCodester1112025-12-28 21:36
It always started in Ragnarok and I don’t get why people don’t see it. That movie has the same humour issue like Love & Thunder yet somehow gets praised like it’s a masterpiece.
It’s so stupid.
Teganfff2025-12-28 22:24
I absolutely love Ragnarok but felt like L&T leaned way too heavily into the humor. In Ragnarok the humor and serious moments felt a lot more balanced, whereas L&T is basically a two hour comedy despite the cancer and human trafficking plots.
themosquito2025-12-29 05:27
Yeah I hated punctuating the destruction of Asgard with a “whoops, can’t fix *that* lol” kinda joke.
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throwtheclownaway202025-12-28 16:06
I didn't say anything like that, implied or otherwise, because that's not what's being talked about
Einchy2025-12-28 17:03
You’re not very good at reading
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Einchy2025-12-28 17:19
Because this post is about how Thor “finally” remembered Thor can be serious but he has three solo films and multiple other appearances where he’s serious. The comment you replied to was commenting on the fact that only love and thunder had him being too silly so it’s not a cause of “finally” because it was always the case aside from one film. That comment had nothing to do with with quality of love and thunder or how it dealt with any of its character, just its existence. So nothing was understated, you just went on an unrelated tangent.
AspirationalChoker2025-12-28 17:17
I think when you take Endgame and Love&Thunder back to back for Thor appearances it does hit quite starkly.
Thor being back ready to roll heads is what I want to see for sure, why they butchered him becoming All-Father Thor ill never know its the perfect end chapter of his life for him (not the end of his stories).
Doomsday & Secret Wars need to go big, I hope the Russos actually let the characters use their powers properly.
Teganfff2025-12-28 22:22
Hard agree. While I do love silly Thor, it’s been done to death. I wanna see him split planets in half.
AspirationalChoker2025-12-28 22:24
Yep I enjoy all the Russo movies but the balance is off sometimes like Thanos will call down chunks of moon but all these super strong people can barely crack a boulder with a punch aha its frustrating.
These are possibly going to be the two biggest comic movies ever when you consider the teams involved, I wanna see these heroes and villains unleashed haha!
BZenMojo2025-12-29 06:09
Yeah, Endgame's psychological tension between Thor at the depths of his own abyss and the horrors wrought upon his soul by NoobMaster69 really failed to translate to his next appearance. I feel like the writers just weren't tapped into darkness when he playfully held the dying love of his life in his arms and was hilariously begged to care for his enemy's orphan daughter.
Huitjames2025-12-28 19:34
There was also too much comedy in Ragnorak.
GoldenTriforceLink2025-12-29 02:26
Ragnarok was too funny too. The directors self insert cracked a joke as asguard blew up
Heisenburgo2025-12-29 04:57
Two movies with Ragnarok (retroactively).
Even some of his parts in Endgame felt like too much comedy at times.
So make it Two And A Half ~~Men~~ Movies.
Mr-Stuff-Doer2025-12-29 11:21
Correct, and it was called Thor Ragnarok.
ThaPhantom072025-12-29 18:53
I still to this day dont get why Ragnarok gets a pass and Love and Thunder doesn't. They both had the same shtick and the comedy was overdone in both.
Loganp8122025-12-30 19:07
What’s so funny about going through “The Devil’s Anus”? /s
lcsulla87gmail2025-12-28 16:59
Did you read the article? It mentions infinity war specifically as a movie that got the tone right
WheelJack832025-12-29 06:13
That movie came out almost eight years ago
eBICgamer20102025-12-28 09:25
Bro had four solo films and the Russo bros were his best directors I can't.
The-ghost-of-life2025-12-29 19:24
The first Thor's movie director was the best. They actually bothered with world-building and wrote a story with a complete character arc and set things for the future. If they wrote the second movie, it would have probably turned out much better than it did.
brac202025-12-28 12:19
Ragnarok got the balance just right imo.
The-ghost-of-life2025-12-28 14:49
Definitely not in my opinion. Way, way, WAY too much humour, I couldn't take him or anything else in this movie seriously.
He also got replaced completely by a different character, but that's a another story.
Suisse_Chalet2025-12-28 14:57
I didn’t think so….”oh your home planet is okay still…oh nevermind the foundation is gone” as we watch Asgard be destroyed. Asgard destroyed and we get a laugh track basically
randmperson22025-12-28 16:33
THANK YOU. I feel like I was in the vast minority that felt that they used waaaaayy too much humor in Ragnarok. They didn’t know when to let up on the gas and just let a moment LAND, and Asgard exploding was a perfect example of that.
_Fizzy2025-12-28 16:57
And Thor just stopped talking like Thor, too. He just feels like random strong bloke from earth to me now.
The-ghost-of-life2025-12-28 20:31
Exactly! Yes, thank you. It was one of the things that bothered me most about Thor's character in Ragnarok (and onwards), and people just ignore it or act like this isn't a big deal. The way he speaks is a crucial part of his characterization, it's what set him apart from regular humans from Earth or even other aliens in the MCU. They made him like any other dude, just a strong one with some special powers he sometimes use, and everyone raves about how relatable he is now. Sure, some easy-going young dude from Earth is more relatable than an alien god-like prince who speaks and acts like he came out of a Shakespeare play, but that's not the character. The challenge is to make him a character people can relate to despite the gap between the current experience of the regular person (Western/American, at least) and this Shakespearian reality of Thor, the prince of planet/realm Asgard. What even makes Thor Thor at this point? Having special powers isn't going to be unique when the X-Men arrive. His character lost its integrity completely in Ragnarok.
The-ghost-of-life2025-12-28 20:33
You were and still are in the vast minority, but you are not alone. I'm there with you 100% and have been from the start.
Afwife19922025-12-29 00:21
I’m with you. I thought Ragnarok went too far over into humorous.
KingCodester1112025-12-28 21:41
Finally someone else with sense. That movie was almost as bad as Love & Thunder with its humour issue.
guidethyhandd2025-12-28 15:03
Ragnarok Thor was great but Infinity War Thor was perfection
Bitey_the_Squirrel2025-12-28 15:56
Everyone is like hurr hurr hurr fat Thor. But Viking Thor at the end was amazing.
guidethyhandd2025-12-28 16:03
That’s Endgame. I personally liked Endgame Thor as well for different reasons, was the first time I’d seen a superhero film accurately and physically display what depression and melancholy looks like and it made me uncomfortable to watch at times (for good reason) because you realize how raw and real it is.
You want this fictional movie set in a fictional universe to montage him and kaboom he’s back to superhero peak condition IW Thor, but nah healing isn’t linear and it isn’t necessarily quick either so even though he gets to reconcile things with his mother in the past he still feels unworthy and lazy at times.
Sorry I like to nerd out about these things especially when it comes to mental health lol
DE4N01232025-12-28 19:24
I agree with everything you’ve said which is what makes the workout montage at the start of Love and Thunder even more laughable. It’s always been my biggest criticism of Marvel is that (other than a few exceptions) they can’t seem to let their characters be anything other than their status quo despite what they’ve gone through.
Thor still healing mentally going into Love and Thunder would have been more interesting but nah…he’s just shredded again, don’t worry about it. Also despite him having awesome chemistry with the Guardians they’re gone now too, sorry.
I’m excited to see what the Russos do with him again because it seems that to me they understood the balance of the character really well. Capable of scenes like the heart to heart with Rocket but also able to deliver the cheer moments like landing in Wakanda.
lanceturley2025-12-28 20:15
Infinity War Thor is peak, imo. It really felt like they found the right balance between the boring seriousness of his first two solo movies and the campy silliness of Ragnarok.
ironphreak2025-12-28 12:54
The thing that gets me really annoyed is how the MCU changes Thors personality constantly. Ragnarok was a good balance, he was funny but seriously, very endearing. However in Thor love and thunder, he was an blubbering idiot at times, any serious moment was taken away by some gag.
They can't keep it consistent, he went through trauma during Ragnarok, infinity war and end game... But in love and thunder, a quick work out montage and he's back to his idiot personality
Spider-man20982025-12-28 13:59
I thought we agreed we weren’t going to talk about Love & Thunder? (Which should have been called Thor Four, btw, you don’t get a name like that everyday)
NamelessGamer_12025-12-28 14:31
Yeah, I thought we could all just pretend Love and Thunder never happened, but they brought back Love (Thor's adopted daughter) in the Doomsday teaser...
Spider-man20982025-12-28 14:39
Damn I haven’t seen that yet and it’s the worst news I’ve heard all year. Is it still Chris Hemsworth’s daughter? I can’t think of a nepo-baby I asked for less.
NamelessGamer_12025-12-28 14:43
The main theory right now is that Doom is going after all the super children to use them for power or something, which sounds really dumb not gonna lie
EDIT
Here is the thor teaser:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MCUTheories/comments/1pvkdkt/avengers\_doomsday\_thor\_leak\_english/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MCUTheories/comments/1pvkdkt/avengers_doomsday_thor_leak_english/)
At least Thor has short hair so I guess that means he will be a good character again?
Spider-man20982025-12-28 14:47
I came across this in another thread and yeah, it does sound suuuuuuper stupid, but also, is repeat of the plot of Love and Thunder? A movie which — some of us at least — are trying to pretend never happened.
I’ll say this though, at least I don’t give a shit about this stuff anymore. I used to be *really* invested, around the Endgame days. Now it’s just like, “oh, a disappointing Marvel movie? Must be a day that ends in ‘Y’.”
Dapvip2025-12-28 15:29
The plot of the movie reminds me of the plot of X-Men Legends 2.
Bitey_the_Squirrel2025-12-28 16:00
We can pretend it didn’t happen, or at least not the exact way it depicted. I believe that in Th4r, Korg was narrating the story and that all the stupid stuff in it (Thor doing the splits, Thor’s back tattoos) didn’t actually happen and that it was Korg being an unreliable narrator. I’m not forgiving the movie or writer for this, but it’s my head cannon to make sense of this dumpster fire.
Spider-man20982025-12-28 17:05
Fuck, Th4r is so good.
ajh_iii2025-12-28 18:49
Th4r she blows 😔
GoldenTriforceLink2025-12-29 02:31
Honestly a reasonable take. Also he’s literally the director. Hopefully some day they establish that’s the case. What a waste of Christian bale
IntrinsicGamer2025-12-28 17:54
Thor 4: More Thor in the Gorr War
DE4N01232025-12-28 19:19
Thor Four The Fourth Thor
youngmanlogan2025-12-29 01:41
That missed out on so many opportunities to market it as Thor Four: Love & Thunder and also as Thor: For Love & Thunder.
PerilousTimes432025-12-28 14:10
Love & Thunder really missed an opportunity to cap off his character arc by just showing his blubbering idiot persona was really a coping mechanism. He suffered so much loss over his MCU run, the prospect of now knowingly losing Jane pushed him over the edge.
electriclightthemoon2025-12-28 20:31
when i was watching Love & Thunder, I thought this was what they were going for but when I realized it wasn't true, it was disappointing.
csproALT2025-12-28 17:55
Love and Thunder is pretty much what POTC 5 did to Jack Sparrow - turning an intelligent man who creates slapstick situations through his witts and luck into a slapstick comedy moron without an ounce of self-awareness.
The-ghost-of-life2025-12-28 19:56
Ragnarok is where they replaced Thor characte, a character that was already established in four previous movies, with a completely different character, so it's really the worst example. imo that was the catalyst for changing Thor every time too, they understood that no one cares about the integrity of this character and they can reinvent it every time anew. It actually worked for them for Infinity War and largely for Endgame too, people kept praising this character. I assume they thought the same will happen with Love and Thunder.
ahmadsarvmeily2025-12-29 01:26
People don't like to hear this because the popular opinion around here is that Ragnarok is a masterpiece, but that was really the movie that ruined Thor's personality, and it's barely any different from Love & Thunder, despite how that's received
GoldenTriforceLink2025-12-29 02:32
Ragnarok is good but mixed. With blanchet as a extremely high point
[deleted]2025-12-29 19:16
Couldn't agree with you more.
FunkiePickle2025-12-29 03:02
Am I the only one that considers Thor’s behavior in Love and Thunder to be exaggerated due to the story being told by Korg? The beats of the main story obviously happened, but the details are not as seen in the movie if that makes sense. Korg is an unreliable narrator.
Mr-Stuff-Doer2025-12-29 11:22
I’m genuinely convinced that no one has watched Ragnarok since release, because there’s _no way_ people genuinely think it’s THIS much more absurd than TLAT.
[deleted]2025-12-29 19:16
Not more absurd, but close, and it more than just opened the door for Love and Thunder to be this way. Especially considering that before Ragnarok Thor acted in a completely different way, much more serious, with more gravity and royality. Love and Thunder is just a more extreme version of it. It suffers the exact same issues Ragnarok suffered from. Way too much humour. The characters act too silly. Making a mockery of past movies. Thor acts like a completly different character than what he was previously. Serious moments don't have time to breathe. No decent world building. Disregarding the source material. Couldn't even treat Thor's old friend with respect. All of this was already in Ragnarok.
TheAgmis2025-12-28 13:43
Thor 4 was The Godfather compared to Thor 1 and 2.
Spider-man20982025-12-28 14:00
What does this even mean? You casting shade on my boy the Dark World?
TheAgmis2025-12-28 14:01
Yes. That movie sucks.
jpiro2025-12-28 14:04
L&T was so, so much worse.
TheAgmis2025-12-28 14:05
Yeah, no it wasn’t on the sole reason it resurrected the Jane character from being this ditzy stereotypical woman in love without guy to an actual humane character.
It’s also more interesting, engaging, funny etc.
The Star Wars prequel nostalgia for Thor 1 and 2 is laughable.
jpiro2025-12-28 14:17
A ditzy…world-class scientist with a life and career all her own long before Thor even showed up?
This is certainly a take, especially when 4 turned her into a trite representation of a cancer victim when it wasn’t busy using Thor as a Venice Beach muscle moron in a three-way relationship with an ax and a hammer.
TheAgmis2025-12-28 14:34
Those movies were boring slogs that didn’t know how to develop female characters.
I get it. It’s cool to hate Phase 4-6 movies. When phases 7-9 come out they’ll be beloved. Prequelitis as well as WWE Ruthless Aggression syndrome exist and that’s not MCU fandom specific
I just know how the internet, the vast minority of opinion, will react to these movies once time passes
The-ghost-of-life2025-12-28 14:53
He actually had a believable character development in these two movies, and had his own unique characteristics and style. Then came Ragnarok and suddenly he talks like he was raised on Earth and behaves like some frat boy throughout most of the movie.
TheAgmis2025-12-28 15:08
Yeah, no
Spider-man20982025-12-28 14:04
And you think Love and Thunder was better. Am I representing your position accurately?
TheAgmis2025-12-28 14:32
Easily better. Thor 1 and 2. Shit half of phase 1-3 suffer from internet fans having a condition called Prequelitis
Spider-man20982025-12-28 14:42
I’ve seen your comments in the other thread and have no further questions. This world is large enough for contrary opinions on superhero slop.
TheAgmis2025-12-28 14:48
You’ll grow into it once time and internet consensus comes
NamelessGamer_12025-12-28 14:31
It's actually the other way around
TheAgmis2025-12-28 14:48
Absolutely not. The internet MCU fans got that prequelitis
WallyOShay2025-12-28 13:46
Th Russo brothers usually do a decent job with Thor. It’s the taika films that make him silly
WillowNiffler2025-12-28 16:06
Disagree. The way every character Endgame treats Thor is horrific. His depression was played for laughs. Ragnarok and Infinifty war were great, but Love And Thunder and Endgame did Thor dirty. The Russo Bros weren't any better than Taika.
palk0n2025-12-28 18:03
the depression was to make him fat, and nerfed him. imagine infinity war thor + mjolnir. thanos will be ded in 1 min
lawsson272025-12-28 13:55
I genuinely hate that scene in Endgame when War Machine quips “Cheez Whiz”. It completely ruins Thor’s emotional moment.
SlashOfLife52962025-12-28 15:25
He crashed out, didn’t ruin anything unless you ignore the rest of the movie
jdyake2025-12-28 14:00
I really hope they go into how much the trauma he went through made him depressed, and he used humour to hide the pain. Was hoping they would do that and love and thunder, but it never happened.
jim91622025-12-28 14:01
His conversation with Rocket in IW was peak dramatic Thor.
"What more could I lose?"
It's such a shame they turned that Shakespearean level of drama into cancer jokes and goat memes in Love and Thunder.
rasputin12025-12-29 02:32
bro but cancer is hilarious
milo3252025-12-28 14:07
You know, the great thing is that the same person can be both serious and silly at different times in their life. You don’t always have to be just one thing, and neither do Marvel characters.
Markus28222025-12-28 14:56
Taika irreparably destroyed the MCUs take on the character, not with Love and Thunder (although that didn’t help) but with the mess that is Ragnarok
Outrageous-Farmer-422025-12-28 15:54
100% agreed.
Einchy2025-12-28 17:06
I like how everyone forgets Thor was the least leaked one out of the big three and it wasn’t until ragnarok that he became beloved.
Arktos222025-12-28 14:57
The title reads like r/shittymoviedetails
ImDero2025-12-28 17:52
It also reads like the movie is already out.
theComer-4392025-12-28 15:15
yeah..... but you sea, Hams Worth didn't like Serious Thor, someone told him that he was funny in ghostbusters 2016 and he wanted more of that.
SlashOfLife52962025-12-28 15:25
Is this title from the future?
Vumi_2025-12-28 17:34
There's a Thor teaser playing right now in front movies in cinemas. Probably what the title is referring to. The tone in it is serious.
buzzedewok2025-12-28 16:16
Ragnarok was perfect. Love and thunder sickeningly over the top with making him way too stupid and it was ruined.
lcsulla87gmail2025-12-28 17:01
I hated ragnarok.
buzzedewok2025-12-28 17:45
You loved Dark World didn’t you?
lcsulla87gmail2025-12-28 17:53
Loved? No. It was fine. I really liked Thor.
AnOrdinaryChullo2025-12-28 20:17
> Love and thunder sickeningly over the top with making him way too stupid and it was ruined
Love and Thunder ruined everyone, not just Thor - what they did to Gorr, his story and how they completely fucked everything that followed needs to be studied.
buzzedewok2025-12-28 22:40
I think it honestly ruined Thor for me.
Real_Walk53842025-12-28 17:10
Literally every Thor movie had humor in it.
Sparrowsabre72025-12-28 17:11
Calm down IGN we've had one teaser. He could be cracking one liners every five seconds in the film proper.
BigB0iBuster2025-12-28 18:43
The damage Waititi has done to the character is insane. They had finally found the perfect balance of badass and comedic Thor in IW and then Waititi threw it all away.
Can’t wait to have the Russos back in charge of the character
IamTheSmartestestman2025-12-28 19:16
I don't care. It's over. The movie is going to be shit anyways.
Toiletbabycentipede2025-12-28 21:02
They never forgot. Just like they never forgot how much Ragnarok or Endgame made. Hope this helps.
AsterArtworks2025-12-28 21:19
Someone on set is genuinely humiliated by the idea of a superhero and they tried to play off that but it ended up so heavy that it felt like they were ridiculing the character we all loved.
With that in mind, Thor 4 was a Rom-com which is supposed to be silly, but that ended up pushing the needle too far into comedy.
StolenPezDispencer2025-12-28 21:50
"Finally" as if he was on some streak of movies where he was just a comedian.
Love and Thunder was garbage, but come on, man. People really let one bad thing sour their perception of things.
Lima19982025-12-28 22:12
CaptHayfever2025-12-28 23:12
"Remembered"? Past tense? The movie isn't even freaking done yet.
OrphanintheWind2025-12-28 23:55
He was serious when he went for the head.
Afwife19922025-12-29 00:19
He had serious parts in Infinity War and Endgame. The Russos do him well. I especially liked his small bit in endgame when Bruce and Rocket visit. He’s fronting how he’s doing good, acting goofy until Thanos’s name is mentioned. He looks devastated, goes quiet and lifts his hand like “don’t”. It was a great job by Hemsworth for that pained response.
RagingDaddy2025-12-29 04:24
"Do you think that was supposed to make the audience laugh?" I do think it was designed to make the audience laugh.
I think I laughed the first time, because it's a delivered-joke. But after subsequent watches, I always feel terrible. Thor, with Redemption literally within arms reach in the form of a gauntlet.
The_Double_EntAndres2025-12-29 10:56
I think this would be a really good opportunity to get an adaptation of clone Thor, him killing giant man, and thors subsequent ass kicking of Dr Doom /RDJ
whenuleavethestoveon2025-12-30 12:48
Why are we writing about this movie like it's already out
mcamuso782025-12-30 17:59
Was it Marvel or Hemsworth? Seems like marvel let Hemsworth and Waititi do what they wanted with the character.
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Him being fat isn't inherently funny. It's actually sad. It's textbook depression.
The only reason people say it's funny is because they see a fat person and their first thought is "Ha ha funny".
Everyone has gathered together to discuss who's going to wear the new gauntlet the team put together. Everyone is tense. Thor, after a movie's worth of depression, comes out of his funk enough to make an impassioned plea to wear the guantlet and do the snap. War Machine, who has spent the whole movie looking down on Thor, being obviously disgusted by him, and insulting him, accuses Thor of having Cheez Whiz in his veins. Do you think that was supposed to make the audience laugh?
Rhodey's being cruel. The audience is supposed to side with the guy being bullied. The guy who's in rough shape, who is absolutely and obviously depressed. We're not supposed to side with Rhodey, or Rocket, or the others who made crass jokes at Thor's expense. *We're not supposed to laugh at Thor.* The jokes the other characters made demonstrated that even good people can be cruel. It's true in the movie, and it's true in real life. That's the point of them treating Thor like that.
Yes, he was the butt of a lot of jokes. Whether or not a person laughs at the jokes says something about them, not about Thor.
For an extreme example, look at "The Room": an objectively hilarious movie. The writer didn't mean for it to be and if you look at the dialogue absent of the context of how the movie actually played out, it clearly wasn't *meant* to be funny.
But are all the people who laughed wrong...? Or is the blame on those responsible for the final product that was that movie?
It doesn't make someone a shitty person for chuckling at a joke that the Russo Bros. clearly intended to be one. The script even called for Thor to be fit again in the final fight against Thanos, but Hemsworth argued against it.
That being said, that's how MCU operates. Effusive jokes on jokes regardless of the situation. It wouldn't be a Marvel movie if they had Thor wallowing in his own crapulence without some jokes added to the mix. But overall, I think they handled the whole redemption angle with Thor well. They accurately showed what someone might do during depression/PTSD. They accurately showed that not everyone would be sympathetic towards his situation, friend or not. When Rocket tries to slap sense into him, that's not the exact catalyst for Thor's redemption. It's Thor's realization that he is worthy of his mantle because he can handle his emotions and mentality and not just his physicality.
It’s so stupid.
Thor being back ready to roll heads is what I want to see for sure, why they butchered him becoming All-Father Thor ill never know its the perfect end chapter of his life for him (not the end of his stories).
Doomsday & Secret Wars need to go big, I hope the Russos actually let the characters use their powers properly.
These are possibly going to be the two biggest comic movies ever when you consider the teams involved, I wanna see these heroes and villains unleashed haha!
Even some of his parts in Endgame felt like too much comedy at times.
So make it Two And A Half ~~Men~~ Movies.
He also got replaced completely by a different character, but that's a another story.
You want this fictional movie set in a fictional universe to montage him and kaboom he’s back to superhero peak condition IW Thor, but nah healing isn’t linear and it isn’t necessarily quick either so even though he gets to reconcile things with his mother in the past he still feels unworthy and lazy at times.
Sorry I like to nerd out about these things especially when it comes to mental health lol
Thor still healing mentally going into Love and Thunder would have been more interesting but nah…he’s just shredded again, don’t worry about it. Also despite him having awesome chemistry with the Guardians they’re gone now too, sorry.
I’m excited to see what the Russos do with him again because it seems that to me they understood the balance of the character really well. Capable of scenes like the heart to heart with Rocket but also able to deliver the cheer moments like landing in Wakanda.
They can't keep it consistent, he went through trauma during Ragnarok, infinity war and end game... But in love and thunder, a quick work out montage and he's back to his idiot personality
EDIT
Here is the thor teaser:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/MCUTheories/comments/1pvkdkt/avengers\_doomsday\_thor\_leak\_english/](https://www.reddit.com/r/MCUTheories/comments/1pvkdkt/avengers_doomsday_thor_leak_english/)
At least Thor has short hair so I guess that means he will be a good character again?
I’ll say this though, at least I don’t give a shit about this stuff anymore. I used to be *really* invested, around the Endgame days. Now it’s just like, “oh, a disappointing Marvel movie? Must be a day that ends in ‘Y’.”
It’s also more interesting, engaging, funny etc.
The Star Wars prequel nostalgia for Thor 1 and 2 is laughable.
This is certainly a take, especially when 4 turned her into a trite representation of a cancer victim when it wasn’t busy using Thor as a Venice Beach muscle moron in a three-way relationship with an ax and a hammer.
I get it. It’s cool to hate Phase 4-6 movies. When phases 7-9 come out they’ll be beloved. Prequelitis as well as WWE Ruthless Aggression syndrome exist and that’s not MCU fandom specific
I just know how the internet, the vast minority of opinion, will react to these movies once time passes
"What more could I lose?"
It's such a shame they turned that Shakespearean level of drama into cancer jokes and goat memes in Love and Thunder.
Love and Thunder ruined everyone, not just Thor - what they did to Gorr, his story and how they completely fucked everything that followed needs to be studied.
Can’t wait to have the Russos back in charge of the character
With that in mind, Thor 4 was a Rom-com which is supposed to be silly, but that ended up pushing the needle too far into comedy.
Love and Thunder was garbage, but come on, man. People really let one bad thing sour their perception of things.
I think I laughed the first time, because it's a delivered-joke. But after subsequent watches, I always feel terrible. Thor, with Redemption literally within arms reach in the form of a gauntlet.